Jeff Miller and Andrea Ruggiero

Miller Ruggiero

Jeff Miller and Andrea Ruggiero

See the rack in person here.

Or download Jeff Miller and Andrea Ruggiero’s proposal.

Then leave your comments below.

16 responses

1 10 2008
uptownman

This is a practical, well thought-out design, but does NYC really need more ad space?

2 10 2008
chriswise00

Looks well thought out, but a bit bland, and would be better without the advertising panel. Also not sure that the plastic surfaces will look good over time as will be easily marked, cut and burnt by cigarette stubs etc.

2 10 2008
gs2008

Very solid looking and agree with uptownman re: ad space, but it looks like the prototype has done away with that. I think this one is very NYC with the cast iron and would look great in all boroughs!

3 10 2008
warmcycle

The prototype does not have the add space and I have to say it is a lot better than the rendering. It does look like it would be easy to cut through it specially on the thiner parts and the material is rusting already.

3 10 2008
aarontsui

Cast iron prototype?? It’s already rusting! Plastic trim on the inside will break/damage very soon. Functional shape, accommodates different bike sizes.

3 10 2008
rosetree100

I just looked at the prototypes at Astor place and this was my favorite. It addressed almost all problems, functional shape that is smaller and does not take to much space from the sidewalks, off the ground so locks can not be smashed against the pavement, iron frame for durability, and recycled plastic to protect parts rubbing against it. Though I agree that the plastic is going to take a beating it will be easy to replace down the line if need be. This is my pick. PS I did not see any rusting

3 10 2008
warmcycle

UMM… I like the rack but… rosetree100, you did not see rust. where you wearing your glasses?

4 10 2008
langster

Nice shape, looks much better than the rendering. The green trim is a nice touch. I’m not sure cast-iron is a good idea, you can easily smash cast iron with a hammer.

5 10 2008
mlascarides

I love this one. Far and away my fave. The surface (if it can be coated in a way to avoid rust) seems very raw, very New York, and very solid and secure. It’s like it has been extruded from manhole covers. I would worry about the durability of the inner liner, although the prototype seems pretty durable. The inner plastic would prevent metal-on-metal noise when threading a heavy chain through it. Not a fan of the advertising panel in the rendering above, but the version in Astor has left it out. It has an iconic quality… the green diamond makes a nice symbol, and seeing a row of these wouldn’t be cheap or depressing. One complaint is that the rough surface could nick the paint of bikes; consider extending the inner liner a half-inch or so outside the metal so that a top tube leaned against the rack would contact the plastic.

7 10 2008
enabru

Boy, am I happy they did not go for the one with the add! A lot better whithout it but still not great, there is something missing. May be it would work around a beisball stadium but not for the whole City.

8 10 2008
robbycrowe

Thought it looks tough apart from the plastic bits. Also came back to find my bike knocked over, as quite a narrow stand providing less support than other designs

9 10 2008
chelseasmiler

This one is ok. Again like some of the others the base fixing plate is a bit too small, but with this one you could be easily widen it without making it look stupid.

10 10 2008
chungle

I like the idea of using these racks for ad space. As long as that means our taxes are lower. The only problem is that I think the ads would probably make it more difficult to lock up the bike. But something about this rack looks goofy to me. Maybe it looks too small. Or the proportions are off somehow. I’m not sure. It doesn’t seem right for New York.

14 10 2008
bigbikeboy

Glad they dropped the advertising – we have enough of it already! I like that this one is so sturdy and strong. I’ve locked my bike to this a few times already and the diamond shape works very well, allowing me to use 2 U-locks. Not crazy about the rust spots, but I think it could be coated better. Looks cool with the green inside and has a NYC feel about it with the cast iron. I also like how it “sprouts” from the pavement like a bush or tree!

17 10 2008
matthewsc

I think this is the right size and certainly seems sturdy. It would also work well on a narrow sidewalk, unlike most of the other designs. I tried it and it did the trick, but as noted above, it was already rusty.

31 10 2008
jnoneiliv1

To dispel some misconceptions about cast iron. This design was cast using Ductile Iron, ASTM A536, nothing like Gray Iron, ASTM A48 which most folks know as the common brittle variety. Ductile Iron has nearly 3 times the tensile strength of gray iron and is much tougher as it will bend more like steel before it breaks. Ductile iron can be cut with a bandsaw, but it is very unlikely this design could be broken with a sledge hammer.

Ductile iron will readily rust if exposed to the elements, but unlike steel, the rust on iron becomes a protective patina, slowing down further corrosion. Manhole covers are a good example of rust as a protective coating on iron. Of course, they can be painted as well.




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